This page, is devoted to the abundance of Scripture References, and material, in regards to the Spiritual, Pre-incarnate existance of Our Savior, YaHuWSHu'A the Messiah.

   One Item for your immediate understanding, is the following "++". Concerning the pre-existance of the Savior, while in his Heavenly, Spiritual, Position; as the only Brought-forth Son, who (even in the old covenent) was regularly being sent by his Father. Which was well within, and Central tothe plan and will of his Father, The Almighty 'Elohim, YaHuWaH !

~~~    "++"

       Many people are very familiar with the story in the Book of Dani'el regarding Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.

       But have they or the Pastors, Preachers, Ministers and Teachers, done a thorough study and exposition on this specific and direct involvement of 'Elohim's Son in the lives of mankind ??? { there are several other occurances besides this one, and they will be discussed within the following studies [ but first ]---->>>

   "Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonished, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors; 'Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?' 'They answered and said unto the king, 'True, O king.'

   "He answered and said, 'Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the fourth is like the Son of God'."   { Dani'el 3:24-25 )


   This is of-course, just one of the many other interesting verses where the Son of Shaddai 'El YaHuWaH is made mention of. And as I said, there are many, many more that will be brought to light in the Studies to come.

   So let us proceed with the Study on...

   The Divinity of YaHuWSHu'A the Messiah

    Please use the Authorized King James Version (Red Letter Version if possible), for this very important Study, (2 Tim2:15)

    I will continue to use the correct and proper Names of Our Heavenly Father and His Son !!!


   True, there is ample reference to GOD the Father; but nowhere in Scripture is there any reference to "GOD the Son", (Son of God, yes , but not 'God the Son'), nor is there any Scripture stating 'God the Holy Spirit' !

   Take for instance the First* of the Ten Comandments ;


       (*Ex 20:3)  


   Please read Exodus 20:1-7 ; and then bear with me as I speak like a fool, and yet Wise. For I speak the truth when I say that the word at Exodus 20:1-7 "Does Not" read as follows:

   :1) And the GODs spoke all these words, saying,

   :2) We are the LORDs thy GODs, which have brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

 *:3) Thou shalt have no other GODs before US.

   :4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images, or any liknesses of anything that is in the heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

   :5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, for We the LORDs thy GODs, are jealous GODs, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate US.

   :6) And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love US and keep Our Commandments.

   :7) Thou shalt not take the Names of the LORDs thy GODS in vain, for the LORDs will not hold him guiltless that taketh OUR Names in vain.


 [ That is NOT how it is read now is it ? ]

   No, of course not !


   Furthermore, of the hundreds of Scriptures that are contained in the TaNaK (Old Covenent) and the Brit Chadasha (New Covenent) Scriptures, reference to the Basic understanding among the Patriarchs, Prophets, Teachers, Kings, and the Children of Yisrael (Israel); and not to mention over the Centuries, an extremely large contingent of Scripture Students known as Natsariym Yisrael [ the Watchmen/Branches of (Spiritual) Israel ]; And even now, Contemporary Scholars who are finding out that what they have been taught, or are being told, is not what the Scriptures Truely and Clearly Show !!

   Following is just a small list* ( of the Multitude ) of Scriptures dealing with this very subject.

   But first, I now begin with the exhortation, hope, guidance and instruction that YaHuWSHu'A the Messiah gave, at:

       JOHN 14:26 ; JOHN 16:12-13.

*Now let us proceed.

   Please read these in the following numbered sequence:

   1. 2 Tim 2:11-15

   2. 2 Tim 2:1-2

   3. 2 Tim 3:16-17

   4. 2 Tim 2:7

   5. 2 Tim 4:1-5

   6. Matt 15:7-9

   7. Luke 10:21

   8. Matt 13:11-15

   9. Luke 24:44 - 45

 10. 2 Pet 3:15-16

 11. 1 Thess 2:3-4

 12. Matt 7:13-14

 13. John 17:1-3

 14. Matt 27:46

 15. Luke 23:45-46

 16. Matt 27:54

 17. John 20:15-17

 18. Rev 3:11-12

 19. John 4:21-24

 20. John 14:28

 21. 1 Cor 11:3

 22. 1 Cor 15:23-28

 23. Col 1:12-15

 24. Prov 8:22-30

 25. Eph 3:2-5 , 8-9

 26. Col 1:26-29

 27. 4:3

 28. Rev 3:14

 29. Eph 1:17

 30. 1 Tim 2:5

   I wish you to consider these also :

 31. Matt 24:36

 32. Mark 13:32

 33. John 12:27-28

 34. John 12:27-28

 35. Heb 5:5-8

 36. Acts 13:29-30

 37. 1 Pet 1:3


   Remember that the Original Scripture Writings contain Hundreds of Supporting Verses as to the Singleness of   =  = "Shadday 'El" = "Almighty 'El (GOD)" , and the separate individuality of His Only Begotten Son, YaHuWSHu'A the Messiah !

   Now read, 1 Peter 3:15 - 16

   Then let us consider again what is written in :

1 Peter 1:3

"The GOD and Father of our Master, YaHuWSHu'A the Messiah",

   And these also :

2 Cor 11:31

"The GOD and Father of our Master, YaHuWSHu'A the Massiah",

Eph 1:3

"The GOD and Father of our Master, YaHuWSHu'A the Messiah",

Eph 1:17

"The GOD of our Master, YaHuWSHu'A the Messiah";


And of-course, I also ask that you remember what our Savior said, "In His Own Words";

John 14:28 ; John 20:17 ; Rev 3:12 ; John 4:23 .*

*This is where a good Red Letter Edition helps !!


   So, why is it that "Mainstream 'Christianity'", does not understand; let alone all of the Priests, Pastors, Ministers and Teachers continued refusal to not teach on these Basic Truths, as spoken by the Apostles ?

Answer...   2 Thess 2:10 - 12 ; and, 2 Peter 3:15 - 17 .


   Therefore, Finally, I give you two Actual Scriptures from the Hebrew TaNaK; and a repeat of one from the New Covenant 'Greek' version of the New Covenant Scriptures.







       In relation to "+" the Name of the Son (above)...

   The following is Translated from the New Covenant Messianic Scriptures :

 +  Matt 1:21 "And she shall give birth to a Son, and you shall call His Name ," ...{ YaHuWSHu'A )

     Luke 1:31 "And see, you shall conceive in your womb, and shall give birth to a Son, and you shall call His Name  ," ...( YaHuWSHu'A )

    { YaHuWSHu'A is the Messiah's True and Proper Hebrew Name ! )


 If need be; Please refer back to the Greek version of Yohanan 1:1-2, in the Discourse/Study, titled Dear Natsarite .


Alrighty Now...

   The Majority of you are probably coming right out of your chairs at this moment. But the Scriptures do not speak of the Father being the Son, neither the Son being the Father. And no matter how much the RCC and her Harlot Daughters try and Twist the Scriptures...

   It is just not true !!!

       In fact, all throughout the time that YaHuWSHu'A was upon the earth, he spoke of his Father, and to his Father.

   Or do you still wish to contend (just as Mystery Babylon and Her Harlot Daughters do) that YaHuWSHu'A was actually YaHuWaH ?

   And that he spent all that time on earth, talking, and praying to Himself.

   I mean, isn't it interesting to note that the New Covenant Scriptures [New Testament], indicates that there was an 'Eloah that YaHuWSHu'A was answerable to; and that the Messiah was under a higher authority, being sent to do the will of his Father !!!


   The Father was not the Son, and the Son was not the Father.

       The Truth is, the Father brought forth the Son and the Son proclaimed the Father (Tehillim [Psalm 139:13-17); Yohanan (John) 17:6-7 .


   And now, it is getting close for the inclusion and consideration of the Identity of the Messenger [as mentioned on Pg.1], that was spoken of in Shemoth (Exodus) 23:20-21, and a multitude of other locations within the Scriptures.

   But first, before we go any further, you, the Disciple/Student, are instructed to Hold Fast these words; keeping them ever before you in thought. Knowing that the word of Shaddai 'El is sure :

   Yohanan (John) 17:17 [ISRV]

       "So set them apart in your Truth - Your Word is truth."

   2 Tim 3:16 [ISRV]

       "All Scripture is breathed by 'Elohim and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,"

       "All Scripture" !

   And why such emphasis on reproof, setting straight (Correction) and instruction ?

       Because for the last 1700+ years, every possible opportunity by the multitudes of false teachers, both knowingly and un-knowingly, have spun lies and twisted the Truth of the Scriptures, even avoiding discussion of the Scriptures, in order to assist haShatan (the Adversary) in decieving mankind into believing the "Doctrines of Devils and of Men".

   Here is some more Scripture Foundation: [from the ISRV]

   2 Thess 2:9-12 :

"The comming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power and signs and wonders of falsehood, and with all deceit of unrighteousness in those perishing, because they did not recieve the love of the truth in order for them to be saved. And for this reason 'Elohim sends them a working of delusion, for them to believe the falsehood, in order that all should be judged who did not believe the truth, but have delighted in the unrighteousness."

   2 Kepha [Peter] 3:15-16 :

"And recon the patience of our Master as deliverance, as also our beloved brother Sha'ul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given unto him, as also in all his letters, speaking in them concerning these matters, in which some are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do also the other Scriptures."


   So what is some of the Wisdom that was given unto Sha'ul:

       [the following emphisis is mine]

2 Cor 11:31

 "The 'Elohim and Father of our Master YaHuWSHu'A Messiah, who is blessed for ever, knows that I am not lying."

Eph 1:3

 "Blessed is the 'Elohim and Father of our Master YaHuWSHu'A Messiah..."

Col 1:3

 "We give thanks to the 'Elohim and Father of our Master YaHuWSHu'A Messiah, praying always for you."

       Apparently Kepha (Peter, one of the 'original disciples') agreed with what Sha'ul spoke! I mean, he did not contradict Sha'ul,... did he ?

 1 Kepha (Peter) 1:3

 "Blessed be the 'Elohim and Father of our Master YaHuWSHu'A Messiah, who according to His great compassion has caused us to be born again to a living expectation through the resurrection of YaHuWSHu'A Messiah from the dead,"

       Another fact to note is that these scriptures were written well after the resurrection of YaHuWSHu'A, and they (the Apostles) continue to refer to YaHuWaH 'El Shaddai as being the 'Elohim of our Master YaHuWSHu'A !

   I'll put that into (another) perspective:

     They continued to say... The God of YaHuWSHu'A !!!

"For My Father is greater than I." Yohanan (John) 14:28


Yes, there is Much, Much more to come, regarding the DEEP THINGS of the Almighty 'Elohim, YaHuWaH and His Beloved Son, YaHuWSHu'A.


   Some of the most Ignored and/or Twisted Scriptures are the following set. Keep in mind that the Majority of Priests, Pastors, Ministers, Bible Teachers and other so called theologians, either tweek them, read over them or avoid them all together, in order to fit them into their twisted theological programs:

   But I will not !

   In fact, I am not only going to list them in this section, but further on in this Study, I am also going to bring forth much more Scripture, in support of these.


   Furthermore, I stand on the Very Words that were spoken by Our Savior. As to do otherwise is to, in a way, Deny Him. (2 Tim2:12)

   Let me also put it this way. If I were to Deny the Words that He spoke, and put in my own variations on the theme (as so many other so-called theologians, etc; do [2 Tim 4:3-4]), then I would be in essence calling the Messiah a Liar. And I can't do that.

   Therefore, because I cannot call YaHuWSHu'A a liar, then it only stands to reason that EVERYTHING that He said was in fact, The Truth !!!  Am I Correct ?

   This is great Knowledge, Understanding, and Wisdom. Let me quote 2 Timothy 3:16 and 17 again. I will be placing great Emphasis on key words.


2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV) [footnotes inserted]

 "All scripture is given by [the breath] inspiration of God, and is profitable for Doctrine [Teaching], for Reproof [Rebuke], for Correction [Setting things straight], for Instruction in righteousness; that the man of God may be perfect [complete], thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

   "All Scripture". Not just the ones that fit the 'Program', 'Agenda', or the 'Specific Slant' that any particular denomination leans towards.

  I'm talking about "All Scripture"!

   The Word of Almighty 'Elohim, not the word of men.

       Let me start with this one : (spoken by the Messiah)

Yohanan (John) 16:13

   "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: "

Yohanan 17:17

   "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."


   Now you are going to get into a much deeper Understanding of the Truth contained in the Word of 'Elohim. I pray that you are able to bear it.

Ephesians 1:17-20 :

       "That the 'Elohim of our Master YaHuWSHu'A the Messiah, the Father of Glory, may give to you the Spirit of wisdom and the revelation in the knowledge of Him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, and what the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the Saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of His power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of His mighty power, which He wrought in Messiah, when He raised him from the dead, and set him on His own right hand in the heavenly places,"


   But, just as our Savior told his Disciples, "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now."!

   I must let you know that what will follow here is very intense.

   And should you decide; You may STOP here and come back when you think that you are ready, and able to bear it.

       Nevertheless, I must proceed ( 2 Tim 4:1-2, 5 ) for those that are seeking the pure word of 'Elohim !


   Here is more of that list, that I mentioned earlier:

       [Remember that these were spoken by the Messiah prior to, and after his death and resurrection]

   Yohanan 17:3

   "And this is life eternal, that they might come to know thee the only true God,"

   Yohanan 20:17

   "YaHuWSHu'A sait unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my bretheren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." { This Scripture here alone blows a big hole in the false teaching that the Mainstream Preachers put forth, that the thief at Messiah's right side, went to heaven emmediately upon his death. As the Truth is that YaHuWSHu'A spent three days in the Sepulcher, and then just after his resurrection did not yet ascend unto his Father , as this verse clearly shows. So there was just no way for the thief to preceed our Savior.)

  Revelation 3:11-12 ( Check this verse in a Red Letter Edition )

   "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the Name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Yerushalayim, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

   There is a very Great reason for our Savior stating in so many places, so many times, that Shaddai 'El, YaHuWaH, was his 'Elohim (God).

That Knowledge, Those Scriptures, are coming in the next installment of this Study.

But I shall leave you with these Scriptures to help you, the Disciple/Student, to get started towards this very Important Truth, that is contained in the word of 'Elohim :

   Yohanan 5:36 - 39

   2 Tim 2:8 - 15

   Dani'el 12:1 - 4, 10


P.S. Remember, that I stated in an earlier Study, that our Savior had said, "He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

   Here is a set of verses of prophecy that help make it very clear as to what our Savior meant when he said, "endure to the end" !

       In Dani'el 12:11 and 12, it is written: "And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away,... there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days."

   Let's do the math:

            1,335 days

          - 1,290 days

leaves        45 days,   so enduring for that extra forty five days, sure does sound like hanging in there till the end to me !!!

   Therefore I strongly suggest that we keep our eyes on the land of Yisrael, and the continued fulfillment of Prophecy; as I am overwhelmingly persuaded that We are in the very last days, as many things concerning our times have come to pass, according to the word of 'Elohim; that these thing frighten us not, and do not take us by suprise, as a thief in the night. Remember also that YaHuWSHu'A told us, "And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."


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